Jan
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Anna_Blue asked:
I know, I know, it would totally mess up the eroticism, the intimacy, the spontaneity of the act. However, let’s say the man tells the woman, “You’re really hot, but I don’t want kids. I never want kids.” And let’s say the woman replies, “That’s fine, that’s fine. I’m on the pill, so it’s OK. Just DO me, baby!” He believes her and he “does” her. Well, let’s say she lied and isn’t on the pill and she, of course, get’s knocked up and decides to have and keep the baby.
I know, I know, it would totally mess up the eroticism, the intimacy, the spontaneity of the act. However, let’s say the man tells the woman, “You’re really hot, but I don’t want kids. I never want kids.” And let’s say the woman replies, “That’s fine, that’s fine. I’m on the pill, so it’s OK. Just DO me, baby!” He believes her and he “does” her. Well, let’s say she lied and isn’t on the pill and she, of course, get’s knocked up and decides to have and keep the baby.
Should she have the (moral, not legal) right to expect child support from him knowing his position on children? I know most states would consider it his legal obligation to pay child support, but if she knowingly had sex with him knowing his feelings shouldn’t he be exempt from paying child support?
Should he be able to sue HER for fraud?
Shouldn’t people in this position draw up and sign a contract before doing the “deed?” I know, if I were a guy and I didn’t want kids I would.
Your thoughts?
Anna
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14 Responses to “Should men and women have a pre-sex contract?”
Evita
no, that would be prostitution in its finest form.
Leonarda
i think it would be immoral of her to seek child support from him.
Cherie
Its somewhat hypocritial to insist that abortion is fine, should be legal, at the mother’s discretion only, and then insist that men have to pay child support even if they never wanted a child.
I don’t expect that to change any time soon, however.
Honestly if guys did what they ‘should’ do, they’d arrange for a woman to act as a surrogate mother using bought eggs, have kids that way, then have a vasectomy and just date women never getting married. They’d be the sole guardians of the kids and not have to worry about getting screwed.
Everett
If he doesn’t want kids, he wears a condom. PERIOD.
Evalyn
hahahha then dont do it with someone other than your spouse!
Luann
you make a good point. she lied to him when she said she was on the pill. but did he wear a condom? if he did then he wouldn’t be in this mess. the moral thing to do is to pay child support cuz after all, it is his kid. though she was the one that wanted to keep the child, so i’m not sure why she would even think of asking the father, who probably doesn’t even know and doesn’t want it, for money.hmm….you make a very good point. but you also have to think of the kid who is gonna grow up without a father. it is really sad.
Carole
i would be pretty pissed if i were the guy..but id be thinking more about the baby and less worried about how the girl screwed me over..plus the guy should know that even when girls are taking birth control properly its only 99% effective..theres that one percent chance so he probably wouldn’t win any money..the only way you can be sure you dont get pregnant is to not have sex..
Emmie
What the hell…there are soo many things wrong here! If the girl gets RAPED and becomes pregnant, the guy can’t just say “oh i signed a contract stating i was going to defile this girl but i’m not going to heed any of the consequences.”
There is wayyy too many technicalities with such a question. And i would very much assume that a decent human person wouldn’t even consider such a thing.
Levi
well c if he told her he DIDNT want kids and she told him she was on the pill tht is a lie… but i dont think you could actually sue her for that… i mean the guy did mess up also in a sense i guess if you think how i do… but who knows… and they probably should sign a contract… and about the legal support well they have to i think actually it is illegal not to pay child support… im not too sure… thats what i think!!
Gino
as George Carlin said one time what is pre there is not a thing as pre heat the oven it’s heat it or on heated we like to per boarding well would like to board the plane now per is mean-less word
Fransisca
Yeah, that’s pretty unfair to the guy. Answer mine? Thanks!!
Silvana
No, that’s not right. No form of birth control is 100% effective, save for abstinence. He took the risk by having sex with her that she could get pregnant. If he was that concerned, he should have worn a condom in addition to her being on the pill. And maybe he should get to know her better before sleeping with her because he clearly couldn’t trust her to be honest!
I’m not saying this woman wasn’t deceptive, but by choosing to have sex, you accept responsibility for all of the things that may come with it: pregnancy and STDs. Sex is a choice, not a requirement. If he truly did not want children ever, he should get a vasectomy or not have unprotected sex. He chose to take that risk, so the burden remains on him.
Every time my boyfriend and I have sex, we take the risk of me getting pregnant, condom or not, pill or not. We don’t want children at this point in time, but the risk always exists and because we choose to have sex, we have no choice but to accept that risk.
Lewis
if that happened, i don’t think the woman could ask the man for any help with the baby
Adalberto
…If I’m gonna have some wild great reckless sensual laid back open minded sex with anyone of a young breeders range and stage of life really?……especially one that says ” I’m on the pill and stuff” honestly?…..I’m gonna be wearing some highly ribbed condoms until further notice.
She’s gonna have to be pretty darned overly convincing and believable to make me believe I’m that kinda sponge worthy anyways……. and most of em would significantly have to prove it before I go dipping my big wagon wagon in her little sweet war paint otherwise…..sound sorta kinda sensible to you too sister?
Let me know babe!